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Worlds most boring looking Supercar...
Breaks cover...
Again!
Yawn...
Is excessive road roar still a feature?
The text says it all: 'the new 991 generation 911'. In translation: 'no news from the German front'.
Sometimes knowing what to expect ("the same but better") borders to waiting for the obvious... equals "boring". TopGear's Jeremy Clarkson is right that Porsche designers are the laziest in the world... Or must be bored to death themselves. And I am not too sure about the 'squinting' taillights.
Ditto above !! I'm sorry AutoExpress, it is not an "all-new" car when its a re-hash of an old model. You said as much with "significant structural, dimensional, technological and dynamic changes". Surely it could only be "all-new" if they started with a clean sheet of paper, which they did not. How weird they increased the wheelbase, and it still looks like it has way too much front overhang. And AutoExpress, sing their praises all day long, but the 911 will forever have a major flaw, and that is because the [dumb] makers will never defy the law of physics. As if. The arrogance they even try boggles me. Nope, wont be lining up for a new 911, or any 911 for that matter. If they took out what should be rear seats, and moved the motor to in front of the rear axle......voila, mid-engined. Could be the almost all-new supercar to beat.
Do the other contributors wonder the why the shape only evolves?
As other shapes show us you can hardly improve on the design of a plate,cup,lawnmowers etc etc (apart from different materials). I guarantee the motoring press, expert drivers and old and new drivers will love it.
As regards to Clarkson et al - following the trip to the Isle of man( 911 V M6 V Aston) Mays and Hammond went and bought Porsches! - at 6'5" Jeremy doesn't fit too well, but if you read his columns he admits the 911 is brilliant. Designers are obliged to follow briefs; it's not lazinees or arrogance but improving an unarguable winning formulae.
How many more 991/911s will be bought over it's rival's???? I wonder.
All are entitled to ones opinion. Looks are in the eye of the beholder. Engineering wise the Porsche is one of the better sports car. Buy with the head or heart they are still the better bet(in my opinion).
My deposit went down on a cab (due May) the day the 'leaked' photos were published before the Frankfurt motor Show.
This will be my 4th Porsche, i have owned other sports but keep going back to Porsche because they are simply a great drive.
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz! zzzzzzz! chkzzzzzzzz!
engineering wise porsche do have the upper hand but it really is a boring car to look at. no doubt its a signature design for the 911 but i think it's time to let it R.I.P and think of somthing else. with VW massive bank balance i'm sure they can be more creative than this.
I apologise in advance to any naysayer who is making their comment from the stand-point of one who has driven a 911 and its rivals. However, I don't believe that anyone who has driven a 911 would be so scathing.
The issue is that you cannot love a 911 until you've driven it. Drive it alongside its "piers" and then you'll really understand it.
Try this. Phone a Porsche dealer and arrange a test drive. A current model 997 will do. Phone Audi and book an R8 test drive then phone Aston and book a Vantage.
It'll cost you nothing and at the end what will be a facinating and enjoyable day, you will be in NO doubt why so many people are such devoted fans of the car that has barely changed in 50 years.
Just try it and come back here and tell us what you thought.
Absolutely agree with courtthree - you can only make a valid observation after driving the alternatives. I would go a stage further - you have to have owned them for a reasonable period of time.
Having in recent years owned a Boxster, four 911's, and XKR (all convertibles); what do I drive now? A Vantage cab which is just mind blowing compared to the others (the chipped paint on the door pull is really irritating though - ask any AM owner!!). Could never see myself going back to a 911 unless they do something radical. Need to own a R8 though (driven, but not owned as yet. Just too impractical) .... perhaps next year I just might!
I had a dream that porsche would build something differnt ,looks like it didnt come though.zzzzzzzzzz i am with carlywarly on this one.
Beautifully made? Yep
Beautiful to drive? For sure
Beautiful to look at? Nope.
Looks like a VW Beetle? Yep.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder? No it isn't.
Why? Because it looks like a VW Beetle (Unless we all agree the VW Beetle is a great looking car?)
What's the weight distribution of this car ? Can't see it published anywhere.
i wonder how many of you haters have actually driven a 911.
as far as the statement "Porsche designers are the laziest in the world" is concerned:
it´s really a stupid comment by someone who has no clue about design at all. it´s by far more difficult to create a fresh evolutionary design than designing a whole new car, cause the freedom of creativity is much more limited.
my 2 cents: the most iconic sportscar in the world just got better and raises the bar...again!
I'm a designer and I think what you have here is a classic example of a corporation which is profit driven rather then a desire to create a work of art. You see examples of this this not just in car design but all around you.
As a designer I wonder who has more enjoyment in their work? The designers at Ferrari or the designers at Porsche? When you choose a career in design you don't do it for money, you do it for job satisfaction and in my exprience I can tell you those guys at Ferrari (Pininfarina) will probably go home every evening feeling very happy with themselves.
The philosophy at Pininfarina has always been to allow their designers creative freedom and it reflects in their work as you can see. Porsche I suspect has a different philosphy and that reflects on the products that they produce.
But for any design to be considered an icon it has to be sustainable (I'm not talking about green credentials). So 50 years from now I wonder how many people would remember this latest 911 version as oppose to a Aston Martin V8 Vantage or a Ferrari 458 Italia?
I can't wait to see what Pininfarina designs for the next Ferrari. How many people can honestly say that about Porsche?
When a GT-R does it all so much better and doesnt look like a new iteration of a VW Beetle?
Boxster is even more dreary...
Can't be the new 911, must be a photo of the old one surely?
German engineering is indisputedly excellent but oh dear God, their designers are very average and are getting worse of late.
Jaguar everytime baby!